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In Defense of ‘Hipsters’ and the Controversial Practice of Moving to a City Not of One’s Birth


OPINION — Freelance Wasteland

Many of our regular readers enjoy our Bushwick Chic feature for the quite understandable reason that they work in fashion or related fields, or because they at any rate have an interest in aesthetics. Then, we have some great number of more irregular readers who really, really, enjoy our Bushwick Chic feature because they spend literally hours each week obsessing over "hipsters," a catch-all term that has come to refer to anyone who moves to Brooklyn from somewhere other than Puerto Rico or some awful Balkan country. Most such commenters come to BushwickBK by way of Die Hipster, the increasingly popular website with an editorial stance to the effect that hipsters should strongly consider dying. More specifically, it bills itself as "a place to laugh at transplanted, annoying, ironic, out of place, piece of shit, pseudo creative and intellectual hipsters." It’s also — and remember this, because it will come up again — a blog.

In contrast to our own site, which covers Bushwick as a whole, Die Hipster gives the entirety of its attention over to the influx of hipsters, whose collective crimes are said to include a tendency to "seek attention." In the course of seeking out hipsters to which to bring attention, the proprietor of Die Hipster asks that his readers give attention to the various forms of hipster behavior that upset him, as well as that they read his very prolific output of fan fiction detailing things he would do if he were the sort of person that he enjoys pretending to be while writing on his blog. The following, for instance, is an actual post from the other day, and almost identical to several others among the dozen or so blog entries that I’ve had the pleasure of reading:

Today, I saw a 95lb gender puzzle dressed like a lumberjack receiving a check from his vapid Daddy from Montana in front of his $3,000 a month loft. So I broke their legs, dipped their heads in a bucket of organic sustainable honey, locked them in Daddys Volvo with a hive of killer bees and pushed the car into the Gowanus Canal. End of Story.

End of story. Check… declined.

To be fair to the author, he does always seem to win these made-up fights — and there appear to have been nearly 50 of them so far, which is to say that we are dealing here with a very tough fellow with whom one would probably not want to mess less one get beaten up in some guy’s imagination and then have the whole thing described with some apparent effort by someone who doesn’t seem to know which words are supposed to be capitalized and why. To be even fairer to the author, it’s not his job to know the mechanics of written English or even whether or not someone might come along and make fun of him for writing little stories in which he is the hero. The sort of jobs that require a basic understanding of English and the ability to perceive irony are mostly taken — largely by "hipsters," of course.

Certainly there are some great number of douchebags, pseudo-intellectuals, and no-talent "artists" among the many over-educated young people who have moved to Bushwick over the past decade. Certainly there are a number of locals who are fine, capable people — but whatever that number is, it’s not so high that Bushwick natives are able to fill the various creative jobs that always need filling, which is why Bushwick, like all of New York, must continually import talent to fill them, even in such cases as nativity would provide a significant edge in the carrying out of such work.

I will tell you an anecdote. This one time, I met the author of Die Hipster on the street and I used my ninja combat skills to beat him up in some allegedly hilarious fashion and then I had sex with several beautiful girls and my muscles are really big. End of story! Just kidding. The actual anecdote is that my old roommate moved here two years ago and almost immediately got a job at The New York Post where he spent his days covering various things that go on in a city in which he had spent almost no time. Now, The New York Post would have preferred to hire someone from New York, and indeed interviewed a couple such applicants, but, as in many such cases, they took on one of the many unusually talented people who have been moving to New York since before it was New York, rather than one of the many people who live in New York because they happened to have been born here.

Of course, a number of locals or whoever these people are who leave angry and semi-literate comments at this site would very much like to have the sorts of media gigs that we arrivals come here to take; the fellow who runs Die Hipster would presumably like to make money from writing fan fiction about fights he’d enjoy winning or whatever else, and there’s plenty of money to be made writing the whatever else in question, if not necessarily in fan fiction. There are also, contrary to popular belief, many such gigs available in this city. They are almost always awarded to those of us who came to such places as Bushwick from elsewhere, as the alternative would be to depend on the talent pool found in such as places as Bushwick. For some reason, the city’s editors, producers, and the like are disinclined to do such a thing, although this will certainly change if more outlets end up needing people to honk at parked school buses, throw old televisions out of windows, play shitty Top 40 dance music from parked cars at 600 decibels, scream at bodega clerks, avoid branch libraries, give money to Pentecostal preachers, buy t-shirts that say "Hi Hater" on one side and "Bye Hater" on the other and then wear those t-shirts in public, await the Jewish Messiah, worship the Christian Messiah, and play the lottery.  

While we wait for the day to come when Bushwick natives are collectively capable of writing their very own restaurant reviews, we should all try to live together in harmony, as it’s going to be a long fucking wait.

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112 Responses to “In Defense of ‘Hipsters’ and the Controversial Practice of Moving to a City Not of One’s Birth”

  1. UESer says:

    Came across this article; curbed.com has linked to it for some reason. I hope the author realizes that there are hundreds of neighborhoods in this city and the williamsburg/bushwich area is not quite important in the overall scheme of things. I grew up here, in Manhattan, with parents raised in Brooklyn. In my lifetime, Bushwick has been what I’d call a disgusting shithole. About as low as a neighborhood can get by NYC standards. That won’t change anytime soon.

    Seems the author, like the typical newcomer to that area of Brooklyn, has moved here from some flyover state, trying to “make it” in the big city. He’s now disappointed since he can only afford to live in that toxic dump, Bushwick, not quite what he saw on Sex and the City.

    Barrett knows he’ll likely have to leave NYC once he’s of the age to have kids of his own. He definitely won’t be able to send little Todd or Barrett Jr. to the schools they’re zoned for in Bushwick, since they likely be beaten to a pulp by the darker kids. He obvs won’t have the 40k a semester to send his kids to a private school since there aren’t any real jobs anymore for people like him in media. Most of those jobs are long gone and blogging about a marginal area just won’t pay the rent once you hit your 30s and you accidently knock up some broad just as broke as you from the middle west.

    Regardless, just remember, we have 8 million people in this city, more than 22 million in the tri-state. 50 percent of city residents were born in NYC, whether rich, poor, or whatever. 40 % were born in foreign countries. Move here from some random state and you better get used to that. Transplants are a small minority, at about 10% of city residents and far less in the tri-state area. Even though it probably seems like you’re problems are relevant. Most people don’t even realize you exist or care about the debate you and this other dude are having.

    Take some advice, get out of your sheltered post-grad existence, interect with some regular people outside of bushwick/williamsburg, in the other 99% of NYC, and please for everyone’s sake, seek some counseling to deal with whatever it is has caused you to have this huge debilitating chip on your shoulder.

    Enjoy NYC while you can my friend, since you sound like the type who will end up leaving after a few years here anyway.

    • yorkaholic says:

      UESer, where the fuck did you learn English? Learn proper spelling and grammer douche.

      • Dina says:

        I was about to say the same thing about the ignorant racist (Barrett Brown) who wrote this crybaby opinion and insults native NYers and immigrants along the way. I thought his “writing” was amateurish and long-winded before but this is just horrendous and BushwickBK and its advertisers should be embarrassed by this incoherent and childish drivel.

      • Yup says:

        Yorkaholic, I do believe it is spelled GRAMMAR!

    • mongoosre says:

      UESer, I don’t think you’re a douche bag because your grammar is not perfect, neither is yorkaholic’s who spelled the word grammar as “grammer.” I also don’t fault that individual, as the internet lends itself to “sic.” It is an informal medium people, please…Their is a cat on the roof. I used the wrong form of “there” so we are all dirty now.

      Ah, the reason I believe you to be a douche bag, You seem to treat “transplants” like a typical conservative treats any immigrant “I hate you because you aren’t from ‘here’ and I am from ‘here’ and that makes me hate you because you have a different culture, etc.” Well yes we Mid-Westerners certainly have a different culture, I mean who would dare to consider attending college, or showing manners and courtesy! If only we had never signed that blasted Constitution that makes this land a single country, if only there were some system to keep the filthy, collegiate, polite scum of your countrymen out! But alas, we are one country and you cannot keep the scourge of citizens from moving to New York. Thus, you had better get used me moving to your city, taking a decent paying job with my college education and acting as I please because I will not be assimilating.

      Oh, and You’re right, we will be moving home when it is time to have kids because, to us New York is a whore. And like any whore, we won’t be sticking around once we are finished with our fun.

      Smile, as the Mid-West gives it to ya’ UESer!

    • Barrett Brown says:

      Seeing as how I dropped out of a state school after two months because I started getting a steady flow of writing gigs, it would be difficult for me to live any sort of “post-grad existence.” As for my kids, I’ll leave the decision on where to raise them up to your mom, but I don’t think they’d be any more likely to be beaten up by “the darker kids” than I was when I went to school with blacks and Hispanics; this may come as a surprise to you, but “darker” people are not hot-blooded savages who run around beating up any fair-skinned kid they come across.

    • BushwickBorn says:

      You, dear, are racist.

      I have a Bachelors Degree in Arts; studio art, painting drawing, the like, I often shop organic, I attend art events, discuss art, etc.

      But I am Bushwick born and raised, I am black and Spanish mixed like most of the Bushwick natives….I’m one of the “darker kids,” etc.

      You call Bushwick a “shit hole” and you cast “darker” kids in such a negative light. Aside from fast food institutions, did you take into consideration the culture behind this area?! The Spanish restaurants, music, events…or you are racist against Spanish culture, countries, people?! Did you consider not all “darker” kids (the black/Latin) kids that don’t fit the “pop music/ghetto) stereotype. I am one of these “darker kids” and I decided to get a degree (a common “hipster” degree) in studio art. I take time to enjoy both the Latin culture of Bushwick and the cultures of the rest of NYC. I don’t snub any authentic culture and, in fact, believe I should live in harmony with both the Latino/Latina people of Bushwick and (other cultural) people that move in.

      The Spanish should get along with the hipster. The hipster should get along with the Spanish. We should ALL get along, collaborate, and make Bushwick a wonderfull and inclusive place. No one ahould look down on anyone else, no one should stick their nose up at anyone else. If you don’t like this move out!

  2. Randy says:

    Congrats to the BushwickBK website. This article has 70 comments and the other 20 articles have about 10 comments combined. We can surely expect to see more of this type of pointless writing here in the future…

  3. Sajh says:

    I have to side with the commentor above and Diehipster.com. The fact that DH is evening being taken seriously by you, shows your insecurities. It’s hilarious to me b/c the view points expressed by Diehipster are the mainstream views of how people see hipsters. And he’s right. Why the concentration in one area? The answer is simple: it’s popular and the people trying to be individuals are actually following each other. Iphone: check, flannel: check, beard/odd hair style: check, eating vegan or organic: check, odd sunglasses or eye glasses: check. Living in Williamsburg/Bushwich: check. The whole point of NYC is diversity of people, the variety of things yet these outsiders known as hipsters are monotonous and annoying. On top of that, after plaguing the city with the photocopied selfs, the trust fund brings it from annoyance to near animosity. Yes, hipsters have no one to blame for the local hate on them but themselves.

    • Jackie says:

      Sajh, I was JUST about to give you a “right on man!” until you got to the played out trust fund line. I hate when people fall back on this. Dude, everything you said up to that point was excellent and so true! If they were coming here with trustfunds, they’d be destroying Sutton Place or TriBeCa or any wealthy Manhattan neighborhood. I’ve had the misfortune to mingle very closely with these annoying hipsters over the past few years (friends of friends) and none of them had trust funds. Just stick to the facts. You made some excellent points.

  4. Johnny says:

    Srsly, Sajh? The “Oh, you think you’re an individual but you’re just following a trend!” critique is, well, pretty naive. Though hipsters (and, I’ll agree with BB here in that the term can pretty much be applied to any young, culturally white and subculturally inclined kids depending on the context, whether one is discussing genderqueer MFA students or bearded, aging hardcore kids) are outside of the norm, they are certainly not Emersonian individuals, each unique as snowflakes. But they never claim to be.

    • Jackie says:

      But that’s the problem with followers. When a large group of people start to dress alike and act alike, they earn themselves a single title. “Hipsters” “Guidos” “Thugs” they are all followers. What annoyed me the most about hipsters all these years is their sameness. The unwillingness to try something, ANYTHING different from the pack. Let’s smoke Camels (wow, just like my 65 year old dad, douchebag), let’s drink cheap beer, absinthe, grow beards, live in the same neighborhood…I could go on but you get the point.

  5. yorkaholic says:

    To YUP: I was playing the ironic hipster lol!!

    Barrett Brown’s article belongs in the Craigslist Rant n’ Rave section, not on a blog frequented by people actually living here in Bushwick.

    • Dina says:

      @yorkaholic: Yeah, sure you were, moron.

      Also, UESer had some valid points and the best you could do was attack his spelling with bad GRAMMAR and misspellings of youe own?

  6. Matt says:

    Isn’t this the same gentrification argument, really?

    Personally, I believe it’s better to focus on community action blocking developments (ie: terrible high rise condos) in order to keep the neighborhood’s diverse personality instead of targeting any of the number of ethnic and social groups living in Bushwick.

  7. yorkaholic says:

    @ Dina: “Also, UESer had some valid points ………. of youe own?”

    Did you mean *your instead of youe?
    And how valid are UESer’s points when they are based on assumptions and stereotypes, just like the author of this article did?
    TWAT!

  8. yorkaholic says:

    For those of you who hate “outsiders”, there are more famous New Yorkers who came here from someplace else than those who were already here. Also, thanks to outsiders, you get to take the nice and clean L train home as opposed to the grimy A or the J. Y’all should thank us for improving your hitherto neglected neighborhoods, supporting small businesses, bike lanes and good eats although some of you still haven’t developed your palate beyond fried chicken doused with a combined mixture of BBQ sauce, duck sauce, hot sauce, ketchup and other similar concoctions available in plastic satchels. And thanks for wearing that ‘Hi Hater..Bye Hater” T-shirt. Its a pure genius in design and the message profound.

    • Professional Alternative says:

      Oh my god you’re dumb. Please stop commenting. Die Hipster actually has funny and even intelligent commentary, and usually it’s about hipster trash like you. Barrett doesn’t think (at least it’s not in his columns) that he’s saving the natives from themselves. He just criticizes a subset of them, validly and humorously. You, on the other hand, actually truly think your very presence betters them, that they need you. That’s the most condescending shit I have ever seen here. Barrett doesn’t make us look bad to intelligent people. Shit-for-brains like you might.

      Also Dina’s a bitch but she’s got your number. Ugh.

  9. fart on a horsey boner says:

    This review of Die Hipster was really a huge disappointment. You squandered an opportunity to mete out some much-needed comeuppance.

  10. Native says:

    I think people are missing the point of the anti hipster movement, HIPSTER=WHITE. and as history has pointed out many times when you see the white man coming and you are not white time to get out of dodge. Most of these “up and coming” neighboorhoods were working class/poor hoods that the city had forgotten due to the fact that it had large numbers of non-whites. So we kept our “hoods” afloat ourselves through the recessions and crack eras with the minimum city services(shitty schools, no police). So with this random influx of “hipsters” into neighboorhoods that we helped upkeep in shittier times, then comes all these new services and amenitites bike lanes, rezoning, new parks, more police etc. and with that higher property values and taxes because the “hipsters” are here. One of my family members owns a building and loves renting to “hipsters” because even though most are just “middle class” mommy or daddy can front a few extra dollars to help pay that 2000 dollar rental. So now where most of us could find affordalble rents normal landlords are renting top dollar because you can charge these people ridiculous amounts of rents and they pay it lol. So now we are getting priced out of our neighborhoods that no one wanted to step in 15 years ago becuse it was considered scum. So blocks our parents and grandparents lived on we can no longer afford due the fact that our hood were randomly selected to be up and coming, and those of us who can afford to stick it out or own here no “hipsters” participate in our communities or cultures(but you have a black/spanish friend lol) they just want to shove organic cupcakes down our throats. So yea you’re going to get some opposition so get over it, when were moving into the hoods we got the same opposition(white flight,bricks through windows, beatings etc).

    To the commentor that said shes irish from Brooklyn and her families been here since 1800 a century before someone else. My family was here before the potato famine, before Roosevelt and his big stick, way before this place was a country and im black my family didnt come in through ellis island and we’ve been in brooklyn since new utretcht was its own city, so I’m a bit confused at what you were trying to convey with that.

    knuckle dragger = monkey/nigger use one of those words instead its shorter.

    grammatical errors oh well :)

    • Professional Alternative says:

      1) Your problems with obtaining city services had and have nothing whatsoever to do with new white people. So consult the historical figures with whom you actually have a beef and leave a 19-year-old college student sharing a railroad with 4 other kids out of it. They’re almost the only ones who can’t fight back.

      2) Nobody wants to shove anything down your throat; this is a rhetorical evil you attribute to new residents who have different tastes than you do. Even in yuppiest Park Slope you can get terrible, tasteless, oversalted, chemical-pumped food — so don’t act like you have to eat what I’m sure you consider fag food.

      3) Actually, when I say “knuckledragger,” I have the image of a fat Brooklyn Italian with sauce stains on his wife beater, and I suspect that actually most of the Die Hipster types who are not actually themselves hipsters are Irish and Italian fatasses from Bensonhurst-like areas because of the explicitly racist things I have seen in the comments there when I went to surf around. But I do not mean it for any ethnicity, I mean it as a general description of the vulgarian urban hicks — many or most nonwhite, probably — who exist in Brooklyn and throughout New York.

      So if you have a criticism for the content of something I have said here, please do elaborate and we’ll debate. If you instead would prefer to simply declare me a racist or troll, fuck off, knuckledragger.

  11. Chris says:

    I am so disappointed in BushwickBK.
    I don’t care who else Barrett Brown writes for.
    Please stop letting him ruin this wonderful site.

    I think much of the success and appeal of BushwickBK has been that it tries to be all encompassing. I have friends that are natives and friends that are transplants. This site up until now appealed to both groups. Barrett Brown insults both groups without even realizing it.

    I don’t think the staff at BushwickBK fully realize the magnitude of these last two opinion pieces. I love this site and trust that you’ll do the right thing going forward. Please don’t break my heart, again.

  12. kevin says:

    Just want to say thanks, not sarcastically, to the author of this post.

    He hit the nail on the head in describing the situation in Bushwick. He also left out the fact that a lot of the natives are litterbugs who love to scream obscenities at their kids/dogs as if they were grown adults.

  13. Just shut up already says:

    In all honesty Barrett, you’re wasting your time by writing this commentary. Not only is it a bad look for you and the BushwickBK blog, but you’re only giving shine to the Diehipster site. The pen might be mightier than the sword, but this seems like a battle that wasn’t even worth fighting. Do you plan on attacking ALL the anti-hipster commentary that goes on? If so, you’ll be very busy developing carpel tunnel syndrome over the next few years.

    BushwickBK has been doing a great job of keeping people informed on what’s going on in the neighborhoods. It focuses on not only the “hipster” activity but also the community based projects as well. That’s what I appreciated about this site when I found it. This article that has drawn in so much attention and that seems like a bad look for a site that has been consistently positive.

    To all “hipsters:” Most of you are hipsters, know you’re hipsters, and probably TRIED to be hipsters. It’s the “cool” thing to do and an easy way to fit in. Go with what you know though. It’s all just fashion statements and opinions when it comes down to it, and the individual you are in your actions will say wether or not you’re a total douchebag. But please don’t move to New York with some kind of self entitlement because you’re young, creative, intellectual, and “hip.”

    To quote Yorkaholic:

    “Y’all should thank us for improving your hitherto neglected neighborhoods, supporting small businesses, bike lanes and good eats although some of you still haven’t developed your palate beyond fried chicken doused with a combined mixture of BBQ sauce, duck sauce, hot sauce, ketchup and other similar concoctions available in plastic satchels. And thanks for wearing that ‘Hi Hater..Bye Hater” T-shirt. Its a pure genius in design and the message profound.”

    You are a fucking fool my friend. You are the pompous person who definitely deserves a punch to the mouth for thinking this way. Bushwick has been a lower income area for many years. If you only knew the advances this part of Brooklyn made WITHOUT hipsters, you might realize your Mother Theresa complex is a moot point. The people you insult were here long before you and being an outsider you should respect that. Instead you attack them as ignorant when they are nothing more than a product of their surroundings. And when I say “surroundings” I’m talking about the area and culture that was here long before they put in a bike path on Broadway.

    What do you want from them? Do you want them to start buying pre-stressed flannels and overpriced boat shoes? Instead of listening to the music they grew up on, should they try and get into obscure synth rock bands that sing about unicorns and other cliches? You’re a fucking moron my friend and if you don’t like the people you call neighbors, then leave.

    This whole debate is useless, and I’m sure the person behind Diehipster is in some way or another a hipster to a pair of outside eyes. This argument has been going on for a while now and sounds like boring dribble drabble and childish bitching from both sides. I am a white male in my mid 30’s and a transplant. I moved to Bushwick because of the apartment I found and not because of the “name.” As much as I get annoyed with some of the social ignorances that comes with my neighborhood, I get equally annoyed with the self entitlement that some of you “hipsters” carry. You feel like you’re saving Bushwick by bringing in bike paths, swanky bars with mixologists, and open front restaurants. Although you might be adding a new flavor to an old and dying neighborhood, which looks good aesthetically, sticking your noses up at the locals will only create more resentment. This all leads to sites like DieHipster and eventually the real hipster beatdowns will become more common in our neighborhood.

    Like I said, I am a white male transplant living in Bushwick and I’m probably guilty by association because of that. I realize I am probably considered a “hipster” by the locals and not cool enough by the “hipsters,” and I’m quite alright by that. But I also have developed friendships with my neighbors and local businesses, and have grown to feel at home in a community that I wasn’t raised in. Other than getting the stink eye from time to time, I have not once been harassed or threatened in the 4 years I’ve lived here. I’m sure if I started looking at my neighbors as ignorant “pop culture” drones who have no palette for randomly infused bourbons, I’d most likely get my ass kicked… and I would deserve that.

    • BushwickBorn says:

      (To Just shut up)

      Thank you. Bushwick is NOT a dying neighborhood though. Aside from the crap fast food, there are cultural institutions that been around before “hipsters”; authentic Spanish restaurants, for example, Spanish music playing within the street, etc.. Just because these cultural things fall along the lines of Puerto Rico, Domincan Republic, and other Spanish countries, and not white/hipster culture, doesn’t mean its ignorant. If you went to a true Latin country, would you call it decaying? To me Bushwick is a Latin cultural area. Sure I want the organic cupcakes and Starbucks, and I hate fast food institutions, but as someone with some Latin heritage, I respect this “Spanish” district called Bushwick!

  14. the author is not only right, but i think he was being too nice.

  15. Nothing is more trite than a self-proclaimed anti-hipster. The word “hipster” is a meaningless, catch-all term that people of color use for young whites who move into their neighborhood, that cranky Gen X-ers use for Millenials who follow their own sense of fashion, for poor kids to use for kids who have more money than them, and for conformists to use for those who dare to have different priorities. When I hear someone sneer at hipsters, it always says more about the sneer-er than the sneer-ee.

    Who else but a wretch would complain all the time about hipsters but a wretch of a person. On the bright side, with all the publicity the miserable whiners give to hipsters, more people who prefer to live happier lives will look at the wretches then look at the hipsters and choose to rather associate with the hipsters and/or become one. Think about it.

  16. I love how “Professionally Unemployed” seems to get such a kick out of his Hollywood-inspired stereotype of normal working Brooklyn people all looking like Danny Devito in a wifebeater–meanwhile, a quick trip down to the self-proclaimed “diverse” (lol) hipster-yuppie meccas of Williamsburg, Park Slope, or Carroll Gardens will quickly reveal that it is in fact you Brooklyn-transplanted inbred suburban hayseeds who are the ones that all look exactly the same: a bunch of Adams-apple-protruding, buck-toothed, red-bearded, thick-eyeframed, Grover-bodied, prematurely-balding, Converse-clad, messenger-bag-slung, ill-fitting-jeans-wearing, sludge-coffee-swilling, sickly-pale, Mac-book-staring MUTANTS. And don’t even get me started on your cankle-having, bedbug-bitten, Raggedy-Ann girlfriends. I’ll lose my dinner.

    You dirty polluted fucks make someone like Rosie O’Donnell look like a portrait of health. And someone explain to me how come despite all that supposedly-healthy “organic” garbage you shove down your stank traps, you still look like such shit. You all remind me of that scene from the movie “TWINS” where the doctor tells Danny Devito that he was conceived from all the genetic waste left on the bottom of a test tube. If it was up to me you’d all be fucking deported. Unfortunately, it’s not up to me, but that’s OK, because your time here in Brooklyn is limited–as limited as your parents’ 401k. So laugh it up while you can, Colby. Because we’ll be the ones still here when it’s all said and done and you’re packing to U-Haul back to Pennsultucky.

  17. The most telling thing is that the majority of angry anti-hipster commenters on here are all Diehipster regulars, which number ONLY about a dozen total despite the fact that the blog has been around for years and years. It must be reminded that the author of Diehipster recruits his followers by advertising in the NYC Craigslist Rants and Rave section, which everyone knows is the toilet bowl of the internet full of nothing but a bunch of racist, ignorant, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynists and bitter Republicans. It’s therefore no surprise what a bunch of low-life knuckle-draggers they really are, and that certainly explains the lack of intellectual direction in their arguments. For Christ’s sake, these so called “native Brooklynites” were even spewing their illiterate non-sense and inciting violence against “hipsters” even on X-mas day. Go check…I kid you not!! What a joke some of these “natives” are. They give all respectable native New Yorkers a bad name.

    • “For Christ’s sake, these so called ‘native Brooklynites’ were even spewing their illiterate non-sense and inciting violence against ‘hipsters’ even on X-mas day.”

      My Jewish friends usually go out for Chinese food and a movie on Christmas Day. Is that more appropriate, Steve Lame?

      • It’s funny how you accuse the author of being racist for using the “token black friend” excuse when it’s clear you’re using the “I eat Chinese food therefore I’m not racist” excuse. Any intelligent person reading this blog knows you’re nothing but a low-life, knuckle-dragging, urban-trailor-trash, Brooklyn nativist.

        Seriously, just Google this clown’s handle “ParkSlope=YuppieToilet” or even better “parkslopeyuppytoilet” and you’ll find HUNDREDS of links to his incessant, idiotic, socially intolerant rants ALL over the internet.

  18. T.B says:

    I don’t even know why people are even wasting their time arguing about this whole hipster thing. Given enough time, people will completely forget what hipsters are and those so called hipsters that have infested NYC will have finally grown up and left all together. Honestly, at some point you just get too old to continue living that way.

  19. jt says:

    Everyone always says hipsters are white, but there are SO MANY asian hipsters. And more and more black hipsters, and have you seen hipsters in mexico city? They take it to a whole new level. I know, we’re talking NYC, but my point is that there are hipsters absolutely everywhere. Also, they seriously don’t all have trust funds! Especially the ones in bushwick. Yes, the LES/downtown ones may have some family money, or the ones in the fancy condos in williamsburg, but not the majority in williamsburg/bushwick. Also, I hate to break it to you, but just because you’re in your 20s and have some money, it doesn’t mean you have a trust fund. I know plenty of people with skin-tight ripped jeans, mullets and tattoos that have really well-paying jobs. This debate is just so tiring…

  20. Adam says:

    As a Londoner this thread is truly fascinating. We have our own breed of hipsters and they’re pretty annoying. But the level of vitriol and humourlessness in evidence here is breathtaking. I had no idea that New Yorkers of all tribes took themselves so seriously.

  21. GoToHell says:

    Just so everyone knows… Trey parasuco, Steve and professional alternative are all the same person. He has been exposed. He got hacked and his photos show him to be a Hipster. He’s a pencil thin noodle arm Asian from Toronto and not from NYC.

    • Blah blah blah…nobody takes a knuckle-dragging, low-life, urban-redneck, inbred, native Brooklyn idiot like you seriously. We all know your modus operandi and patterns of intellectual dishonesty. People on here are too intelligent to fall for your idiocy. Crawl back to your Diehipster circle-jerk instead because I’m sure you’ll find more people, that small handful of regular native Brooklyn rejects that write the SAME illiterate daily rants 30X a day 365 days a year, that are on the same low level of mental ability as yourself there.

  22. Kate says:

    I am not a NY native, and not what I would describe as a hipster. I grew up in Texas and Southern California, and feel most at home in ‘Spanish’ neighborhoods. My neighbors don’t speak English, which is fine because I speak Spanish. I like them and their kids, and I’ve started gardening in the previously empty yard. My ‘dark skinned’ neighbors love the fresh produce. I don’t mind the loud music and kids hanging out in front of their houses in the middle of the night. It’s exactly the same as what we did in the suburbs at that age, or have all the transplants forgotten that? I think my point is that this is everyone’s neighborhood, and who gives a shit what sort of differences there are.