Comments on: Locals Want Free J-G Transfer; MTA Says No

By: what

what — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:00:17 +0000

A free transfer would not cause them to lose money, these are people transferring between two train lines… One of which they already paid for, and also which you could transfer to all the other lines for free anyway.

By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:02:21 +0000

“Out of system” transfers were implemented on the Upper East Side and in Long Island City *only* because the creation of the (V) line and subsequent rerouting of the (F) line caused riders in Queens to lose certain transfer options depending on what line they took. For instance, (F) riders used to have a one-seat ride to transfer to Lexington Avenue Line service at Lexington Avenue – 53 Street, but no longer have that now that the (F) services Lexington Avenue – 63 Street. Therefore, the free “walking transfer” was implemented at that location.

Same thing between the (7)(E)(G) and (V) in Long Island City. With the (G) cut back to Court Square because of the new (V), the outside transfer was implemented there so the (G) riders could still directly connect to the (7).

There was never a free connection between the (J)(M) and (G) in Brooklyn, and none was built originally because of the competition between the IND and the BMT back then. With the budget the way it is now, they won’t be implementing a new transfer which could cause them to lose money, wouldn’t be utilized enough, and would cost them regardless simply to implement.

By: Bunkerlabs

Bunkerlabs — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:49:55 +0000

That’s how I usually go if I’m trying to get to either Ft. Green or Gowanus

By: FormerRidgewoodite

FormerRidgewoodite — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:22:28 +0000

disembodied cat head, what is the Broadway El and what is now the G line was also two different companies at one time. The G was the IND system (the city run subway), and the Broadway El was the BMT, a privately run transit line.

By: mopar

mopar — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:35:01 +0000

I didn’t even realize the two lines were within a half block of each other. Hm, is this a faster way to go to Fort Greene or Williamsburg than transferring to the AC or the L?

By: disembodied cat head

disembodied cat head — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:50:38 +0000

the reason the 7 & G only connect outside i believe is because they were originally part of two different systems – the IRT & BRT/BMT – when the lines were built. the two companies also had different-length trains & different-length platforms if i recall correctly. they don’t connect conveniently because if the commuter paid to enter the IRT at whatever station the BMT wouldn’t have gotten paid if he switched lines at Court Sq. i forget which company had the numbered lines & which had the letters though.

By: Jimmy Legs

Jimmy Legs — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:44:28 +0000

i want to find out more about the history of the free transfer for the 7 in queens. even though it made sense and was all but required since the E/V is about the same distance but features an underground physical connection (not to mention the spiffy moving sidewalks). but it’s hard to believe the MTA offered the 7 transfer without being asked. maybe there’s something to investigate there.

still, the MTA of our time is not something we equate with reason or customer sevice. but they did just extend the g …

By: NattyB

NattyB — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:36:40 +0000

This is just insane on the part of the MTA.

They have a free outdoor transfer at 59/63rd street on the UES and that’s a tremendous time saver and it’s a further switch then the JMZ – Broadway (G) transfer.

I live in the LES by the Essex JMZ, and I have to do the outdoor switch to the G to visit friends in Greenpoint, Long Island City, and Sunnyside. How else should I get to those places according to the MTA from my place?

Take the F to the G and add about 10 extra stops and go about 5 miles out of the wya.

Get some congestion pricing, east river bridge tolls, and stop F-cking over Mass Transit users who don’t get the unlimited every month.