Comments on: MTA to Jack Fares, Cut Service to Bushwick http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/ News and views from Bushwick, Brooklyn Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:21:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Mopar http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8987 Mopar Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:41:57 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8987 The V doesn't really run at all in Queens, and neither does the G past the first Queens stop, despite the fiction of the schedule. I love the subway. The V doesn’t really run at all in Queens, and neither does the G past the first Queens stop, despite the fiction of the schedule. I love the subway.

]]> By: Caaah http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8954 Caaah Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:45:45 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8954 Chillin--you're right about the express thing--it doesn't really make sense. The stops the J express skips between Myrtle and Marcy will still be covered by the M even if the Z were cut. I don't understand their logic, really. Does the J, when running express, skip any stops past Broadway Junction in Queens? I haven't been in that direction. And as for the V, for all I know it may get crowded in Queens, but that line already has 5 different trains running between Jackson Heights and Forest Hills. Chillin–you’re right about the express thing–it doesn’t really make sense. The stops the J express skips between Myrtle and Marcy will still be covered by the M even if the Z were cut. I don’t understand their logic, really. Does the J, when running express, skip any stops past Broadway Junction in Queens? I haven’t been in that direction.

And as for the V, for all I know it may get crowded in Queens, but that line already has 5 different trains running between Jackson Heights and Forest Hills.

]]> By: Dresden http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8950 Dresden Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:58:16 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8950 Boo hoo. We all know the subway is the worst thing about living here. I've seen fair hikes, surpluses, deficits, cutbacks, construction - the bottomline is the MTA sucks. It's corrupt and mismanaged and it always will be. Go ahead - tax me an extra $5 a month. I have no choice and no platform to demand reform. Boo hoo. We all know the subway is the worst thing about living here. I’ve seen fair hikes, surpluses, deficits, cutbacks, construction -

the bottomline is the MTA sucks. It’s corrupt and mismanaged and it always will be. Go ahead – tax me an extra $5 a month. I have no choice and no platform to demand reform.

]]> By: chillinoncentral http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8945 chillinoncentral Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:54:29 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8945 One curious oddity about the announced cuts is that, every time a train stops and then goes, it costs a lot of money... so, express service has always been considered economical by comparison. So, why would cutting out J express service be considered? More would be saved if only one less local train was used at 3:15am on the (always empty anyway) V train and no one would care. J express is utilized by more than 10,000 riders on its lightest-used weekday. One curious oddity about the announced cuts is that, every time a train stops and then goes, it costs a lot of money… so, express service has always been considered economical by comparison. So, why would cutting out J express service be considered? More would be saved if only one less local train was used at 3:15am on the (always empty anyway) V train and no one would care. J express is utilized by more than 10,000 riders on its lightest-used weekday.

]]> By: ricmac01 http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8942 ricmac01 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:26:27 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8942 I am so upset with MTA's deficit/surplus/deficit whining over the past three years. Friggin MTA Executive Director Elliot Sander has the nerve to say he "anticipates an emotional reaction" from New Yorkers upset with the changes. Their accountants must be going crazy trying to keep up with which set of books to bring out this time. I am so upset with MTA’s deficit/surplus/deficit whining over the past three years. Friggin MTA Executive Director Elliot Sander has the nerve to say he “anticipates an emotional reaction” from New Yorkers upset with the changes. Their accountants must be going crazy trying to keep up with which set of books to bring out this time.

]]> By: Caaah http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8937 Caaah Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:09:32 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8937 I ride my bike and spend maaaaybe $10 a month in maintenance. Screw $81 a month. I ride my bike and spend maaaaybe $10 a month in maintenance. Screw $81 a month.

]]> By: tracey http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8936 tracey Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:51:40 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8936 Nico is dead on! I guess its time i go out and get hit by a car with my bike Nico is dead on! I guess its time i go out and get hit by a car with my bike

]]> By: Joseph http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8933 Joseph Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:39:34 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8933 Honestly, the subway is a pretty good deal at the moment - $81 for a monthly unlimited pass. If they raise the price to $100 and still keep the service the same, I think that is pretty fair. I mostly use the L train and the service is great. This is not to say that the MTA is an efficient, well run organization. With trains that are often packed, it does make you wonder what they are doing with all that money. Honestly, the subway is a pretty good deal at the moment – $81 for a monthly unlimited pass. If they raise the price to $100 and still keep the service the same, I think that is pretty fair. I mostly use the L train and the service is great.

This is not to say that the MTA is an efficient, well run organization. With trains that are often packed, it does make you wonder what they are doing with all that money.

]]> By: will http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8928 will Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:35:33 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8928 Nico either way we pay for it ... the gov't gets the money from us. I've always liked the fact that the MTA gets money from the tolls on bridges and tunnels - the tolls push people toward using the trains and that keeps too many people from overwhelming the bridges and tunnels. Anyway the MTA is a disaster from the top down. The unions don't make it easy, but it's really the General Motors of transit - the management sucks too. And not so ironically it was a Republican, George Pataki who made the MTA finances go from bad to worse- we are reaping the rewards of his bad/greedy decisions now. Some good links, for anyone who cares: http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_2_subways.html http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:eiQ3XiaONEAJ:www.nypress.com/16/16/news%26columns/feature.cfm+mta+pataki+bonds&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=safari http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060109/fitch http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/07/nyregion/07mta.html?_r=1 Nico either way we pay for it … the gov’t gets the money from us. I’ve always liked the fact that the MTA gets money from the tolls on bridges and tunnels – the tolls push people toward using the trains and that keeps too many people from overwhelming the bridges and tunnels.

Anyway the MTA is a disaster from the top down. The unions don’t make it easy, but it’s really the General Motors of transit – the management sucks too.
And not so ironically it was a Republican, George Pataki who made the MTA finances go from bad to worse- we are reaping the rewards of his bad/greedy decisions now.

Some good links, for anyone who cares:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_2_subways.html

http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:eiQ3XiaONEAJ:www.nypress.com/16/16/news%26columns/feature.cfm+mta+pataki+bonds&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=safari

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060109/fitch

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/07/nyregion/07mta.html?_r=1

]]> By: Nico http://bushwickbk.com/2008/11/19/mta-to-jack-fares-cut-service-to-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-8926 Nico Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:27:00 +0000 http://bushwickbk.com/?p=747#comment-8926 Why the hell don't they cut the V train service instead? There's never anyone on that train from Midtown to the LES.... And when oh when will these people learn---public transit is NOT meant to be profitable, EVER. It's necessary to the economy and infrastructure of the metro area, and it needs to be heavily subsidized...by the gov't, not by the citizens who depend on it. Why the hell don’t they cut the V train service instead? There’s never anyone on that train from Midtown to the LES….

And when oh when will these people learn—public transit is NOT meant to be profitable, EVER. It’s necessary to the economy and infrastructure of the metro area, and it needs to be heavily subsidized…by the gov’t, not by the citizens who depend on it.

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