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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Offensive Gardening&#8221;: A Primer for Bushwick</title>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://bushwickbk.com/2007/05/29/offensive-gardening-a-primer-for-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t the police have leisure time to plant?</description>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
		<link>http://bushwickbk.com/2007/05/29/offensive-gardening-a-primer-for-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KG - i have appreciated your plantings too!! thought to myself what a nice job they(the police dept) did... now i know the real story. thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KG &#8211; i have appreciated your plantings too!! thought to myself what a nice job they(the police dept) did&#8230; now i know the real story. thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://bushwickbk.com/2007/05/29/offensive-gardening-a-primer-for-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 19:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely appreciated -- Central from my block to Flushing is a gauntlet of vacant lots, razor wire, depressing dusty parks, and street-snubbing housing projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely appreciated &#8212; Central from my block to Flushing is a gauntlet of vacant lots, razor wire, depressing dusty parks, and street-snubbing housing projects.</p>
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		<title>By: KG</title>
		<link>http://bushwickbk.com/2007/05/29/offensive-gardening-a-primer-for-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 18:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the one! I should say that it&#039;s the brainchild of my sister, and she was the one who put a hell of a lot of initial work into it. Go look at the Forrest Street strip -- the roses have all popped and it&#039;s lookin&#039; great. I&#039;m going to try to hit the Central side tomorrow -- I&#039;m just the unhired help, though, rather than the organizing genius (which is another way of saying my sis won&#039;t let me plant what *I* want, hem-hem). A lot of the cops are appreciative, though, and say so, and ply us with hamburgers and hotdogs when they grill outside. My sis and I look a lot alike, so I think many of the cops are under the impression that they&#039;ve been chitchatting with just one person the whole time. 

Hope you&#039;ve enjoyed it. That was one of its points -- a little beauty in the midst of a hell of a lot of concrete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the one! I should say that it&#8217;s the brainchild of my sister, and she was the one who put a hell of a lot of initial work into it. Go look at the Forrest Street strip &#8212; the roses have all popped and it&#8217;s lookin&#8217; great. I&#8217;m going to try to hit the Central side tomorrow &#8212; I&#8217;m just the unhired help, though, rather than the organizing genius (which is another way of saying my sis won&#8217;t let me plant what *I* want, hem-hem). A lot of the cops are appreciative, though, and say so, and ply us with hamburgers and hotdogs when they grill outside. My sis and I look a lot alike, so I think many of the cops are under the impression that they&#8217;ve been chitchatting with just one person the whole time. </p>
<p>Hope you&#8217;ve enjoyed it. That was one of its points &#8212; a little beauty in the midst of a hell of a lot of concrete.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://bushwickbk.com/2007/05/29/offensive-gardening-a-primer-for-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 15:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You garden at the cop station on Forrest and Central? I see you all the time! Once spring sprung I knew there was no way some city gardener was doing all that, and that some private citizen had taken it over, since you knwo the cops couldn&#039;t give a shit, I mean look at all the trash in front of that dump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You garden at the cop station on Forrest and Central? I see you all the time! Once spring sprung I knew there was no way some city gardener was doing all that, and that some private citizen had taken it over, since you knwo the cops couldn&#8217;t give a shit, I mean look at all the trash in front of that dump.</p>
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		<title>By: KG</title>
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		<dc:creator>KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey. My sister and I garden outside a cop station in strips of dirt that probably had been intended at some point for bushes but the city ran out of money. The garden&#039;s beautiful -- pretty mature at this point -- and I saw some kids come hurtling around the corner and jumping in the beds. I ran over and yelled at them. They were obviously a class from a school -- they were wearing identical maroon polo shirts -- and the teachers came around the corner eventually, but a confrontation had already ensued. One largish girl -- they were 6th graders -- got in my face and I got right back in hers, which perhaps surprised her, but I went to and have taught in public urban schools and I wasn&#039;t havin&#039; it.  

The teachers apologized, blah blah blah, and some of the kids were sweet, but the whole thing left me with a bad taste in my mouth, given the racial and class ramifications and that I was effectively participating in an oft-played and very frequent gentrification dynamic. My sister&#039;s lived in Bushwick for 10 years, btw, so we didn&#039;t just get here last month. So I got on the horn, called around, tracked down the school, and said I wanted to go talk to the class. Not for blame, not because I wanted an apology, but because I wanted each side to talk about what happened. This is where I was coming from, and then they could say where they were coming from. Also, this was a strategic move on my part, because I didn&#039;t want the kids coming back and ripping out the flowers in retaliation. 

Long story short: I went in, talked to the principal, and then was walked to the class. I think it went fine. If nothing else, perhaps the kids will know that we all have to live together, and if you&#039;re out running around on the street, you&#039;re not anonymous and actions have consequences, some perhaps intended, others not. I don&#039;t have any big moral to this story, but I just didn&#039;t want things to play out as they had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey. My sister and I garden outside a cop station in strips of dirt that probably had been intended at some point for bushes but the city ran out of money. The garden&#8217;s beautiful &#8212; pretty mature at this point &#8212; and I saw some kids come hurtling around the corner and jumping in the beds. I ran over and yelled at them. They were obviously a class from a school &#8212; they were wearing identical maroon polo shirts &#8212; and the teachers came around the corner eventually, but a confrontation had already ensued. One largish girl &#8212; they were 6th graders &#8212; got in my face and I got right back in hers, which perhaps surprised her, but I went to and have taught in public urban schools and I wasn&#8217;t havin&#8217; it.  </p>
<p>The teachers apologized, blah blah blah, and some of the kids were sweet, but the whole thing left me with a bad taste in my mouth, given the racial and class ramifications and that I was effectively participating in an oft-played and very frequent gentrification dynamic. My sister&#8217;s lived in Bushwick for 10 years, btw, so we didn&#8217;t just get here last month. So I got on the horn, called around, tracked down the school, and said I wanted to go talk to the class. Not for blame, not because I wanted an apology, but because I wanted each side to talk about what happened. This is where I was coming from, and then they could say where they were coming from. Also, this was a strategic move on my part, because I didn&#8217;t want the kids coming back and ripping out the flowers in retaliation. </p>
<p>Long story short: I went in, talked to the principal, and then was walked to the class. I think it went fine. If nothing else, perhaps the kids will know that we all have to live together, and if you&#8217;re out running around on the street, you&#8217;re not anonymous and actions have consequences, some perhaps intended, others not. I don&#8217;t have any big moral to this story, but I just didn&#8217;t want things to play out as they had.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://bushwickbk.com/2007/05/29/offensive-gardening-a-primer-for-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, try barbed wire instead of razor. It just pokes unless they really get their hands in there deep. By the time their hands are in the dirt, it&#039;s gonna be some jerkoff adult trying to steal your plant, not a juvenile vandal.

JL, actually, the kids stopped and looked first, and when I yelled again (that would be &quot;WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!?&quot;), then they took off running. I find the Mexican kids are scared shitless of anything, but the baby Boricuas look at you like, yeah, AND?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, try barbed wire instead of razor. It just pokes unless they really get their hands in there deep. By the time their hands are in the dirt, it&#8217;s gonna be some jerkoff adult trying to steal your plant, not a juvenile vandal.</p>
<p>JL, actually, the kids stopped and looked first, and when I yelled again (that would be &#8220;WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!?&#8221;), then they took off running. I find the Mexican kids are scared shitless of anything, but the baby Boricuas look at you like, yeah, AND?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Legs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Legs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually i prefer the method you employed already: scream at the top of your lungs. :) i wish i had been there to see that! those kids musta jumped ten feet. maybe you can rig up a motion detector to signal a recording of yelling if they get too close. it&#039;s the only way they&#039;ll learn.

i&#039;m trying to work in some bit about aluminum vs. wooden bats, but i can&#039;t quite bridge the gap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually i prefer the method you employed already: scream at the top of your lungs. :) i wish i had been there to see that! those kids musta jumped ten feet. maybe you can rig up a motion detector to signal a recording of yelling if they get too close. it&#8217;s the only way they&#8217;ll learn.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m trying to work in some bit about aluminum vs. wooden bats, but i can&#8217;t quite bridge the gap.</p>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
		<link>http://bushwickbk.com/2007/05/29/offensive-gardening-a-primer-for-bushwick/comment-page-1/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGH - that sucks. get the poles for the tree. that will probably help. i have thought about putting razor wire in my front flower baskets but the theft has been only intermittent so far (once or twice a year). also i wonder if i would get in trouble if a kid put their hand in there and hurt themselves badly... so i&#039;ll probably skip it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGH &#8211; that sucks. get the poles for the tree. that will probably help. i have thought about putting razor wire in my front flower baskets but the theft has been only intermittent so far (once or twice a year). also i wonder if i would get in trouble if a kid put their hand in there and hurt themselves badly&#8230; so i&#8217;ll probably skip it.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One time in front of my old apartment I saw three children (the oldest one was maybe 10) hurling water-filled 16 oz. bottles at cats. Like you, I ran down and screamed at them.

Yeah, they aren&#039;t foliage but it makes you wonder what (if anything) their parents are teaching them. It makes me thankful my &#039;new&#039; neighbors actually watch their kids. One wrong move and momma is on the scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One time in front of my old apartment I saw three children (the oldest one was maybe 10) hurling water-filled 16 oz. bottles at cats. Like you, I ran down and screamed at them.</p>
<p>Yeah, they aren&#8217;t foliage but it makes you wonder what (if anything) their parents are teaching them. It makes me thankful my &#8216;new&#8217; neighbors actually watch their kids. One wrong move and momma is on the scene.</p>
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